27C322, 27C160, 27C800, 27C400 Programming Adapter (TL866)

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The 27C322 and 27C160 EPROMs are 42 pins wide. The TL866 and TL866II programmer only has room for 40 pins. So how are we going to deal with that? Well, the short answer is, we’re going to trick the TL866 into thinking we’re programming a different EPROM. The EPROM we’re going to tell it to program is only 4 Mbits large. Using this EPROM normally would only utilize address pins A0 through A17. The 27C322 goes up to A20, and the 160 goes up to A19. By manually controlling A18, A19, and A20 (for the 322), we can program our ROM in 4 Mbit chunks to fill up the memory space.

Splitting the ROM

If you’re following the SNES tutorial, you might already know how to do this part. If not, you can check out Step 6 of the tutorial here.

If you don’t want to use SNES ROM Utility, or are using this programmer for something other than SNES games, you can use this utility to split the files instead. It’s very simple to use, just load up the ROM, pick your destination folder, and type in a custom size of 512 Kbytes (which is 4 Mbits).

filesplit1

Now, you’ve got your 4 Mbit chunks to program with the TL866. These chunks will end in a .chunk001, .chunk002, etc. file extension after splitting. You can still load these files up into the programmer without any issue – no need to change the file extension back.

How to Use the Programming Adapter

Load up the 27C4096 chip on the TL866 software, and load up the first chunk from your original ROM. Change the VPP to 12.5 V, as this is dictated for programming voltage in the datasheet. Then, uncheck the “Check ID” option. Note that if you have the new TL866II and are using “Xgpro” software, you need to uncheck “Pin Detect” as well. Your window should look like this:

minipro160

Here’s a table of how data is programmed into the EPROM. If A18, A19, or A20 is a “0”, that means tie it to GND, or if you’re using the adapter, put the switch in the “OFF” position. If it’s a “1”, that means tie it to VCC, or if you’re using the adapter, put the switch in the “ON” position. Program the 4 Mbit chunks in sequential order in the banks.

For the 27C322, use these switch positions:

322_table

For the 27C160, use these switch positions:

banks.png

For the 27C800, use these switch positions:

800_table.png

For the 27C400, keep all switch positions OFF. Also, because the 27C400 is only 40 pins, and not 42 pins, make sure to put the EPROM with pins 1 and 42 exposed.

27c040

If you get an error while programming with the MiniPro – make sure your chips are in the correct orientation, each bank is blank, you’ve unchecked the “Check ID” box, and that you’ve selected a 27C4096 EPROM from the Select IC list! Also, make sure you’ve got the switch on the adapter board on the correct option!

How the Adapter Works

Here’s a breakdown of the pinouts on the 27C322, 27C160, and the 27C4096.

pin_comparison.png

Remember, the 27C4096 is the chip we’re going to tell the TL866 we’re programming. The X’s signify an address pin that goes unused on that chip. We’ll be adding three switches to manually control these pins – A18, A19, and A20. You’ll note that the 322 and 160 share every single pin, except that 160’s don’t utilize A20, and the VPP and /OE pins are a bit different.

According to the datasheet for the 27C322, pin 13 (or /GVpp as it’s defined) combines the /OE (output enable) pin and the VPP (programming voltage) pins into one. The 4096, however, keeps these pins separate. This isn’t too much of a problem, though, if we take a look at the operating modes of the 322 we can see that we never really need the /GVpp pin to be anything but zero volts or the programming voltage.

322operation.png

Here, VIL notates logic low, or zero volts. VIH is logic high, or anywhere between 2 and VCC + 1 volts (according to the datasheet). You’ll notice that the only mode that uses VIH is “Output Disable” which isn’t really used while programming the EPROM. So we only really need to switch pin 13 between ground and VPP (which means we can ignore pin 20 on the TL866 completely for programming the 27C322). Unfortunately, the TL866 switches VPP between the programming voltage and VCC voltage, so we need to add a bit of circuitry to change that VCC to GND.

322vpp

The PNP transistor above conducts when the emitter voltage is greater than the base voltage. During programming, the VPP pin from the TL866 applies the high programming voltage. When this happens, current flows through the base resistor (RB), and pulls pin 13 on the 27C322 to VPP. Then, when the VPP pin on the programmer drops to VCC voltage, the base current drops and the transistor stops conducting. This causes pin 13 to be pulled to VSS through the collector resistor (RC).

Now, taking care of the extra address pins is just using simple switches with pull-down resistors.

address_switches

With this extra circuitry, we can make a standalone 27C322 adapter for the TL866. However, if you check that table again up at the top, you should’ve noticed that the 322 and 160 (and by extension, the 27C800 and 27C400) share a lot of common pins. The only real difference is which pin is used for the programming voltage – pin 32 on the 160 is the VPP pin, but on the 322 this is the A20 pin. We can easily reroute this using a double-pole-double-throw switch.

322_160_schematic.png

So with the extra circuitry, we now have our finished product, capable of allowing the TL866 to program 27C322’s, 160’s, 800’s, and 400’s.

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Standalone 27C160, 27C800, 27C400 Programming Adapter

This is an older design I made that only programs 27C160’s, 800’s, and 400’s. It’s a lot simpler to understand, and doesn’t require the need for a DPDT switch or PNP transistor.

In order to program the 160’s, we’ll need to reroute the pins on the 160 to match the pinout of the 27C4096, which the TL866 supports. Here’s the pinouts of each of the chips from their datasheets, and the rewiring you’ll need to do.

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Pin 1 (A18) and pin 42 (A19) are not available on the 4096, so they will go to the switches that will turn the two address lines to 1’s or 0’s. Here’s a schematic of how you’ll need to connect them to switches using a pull-down resistor.

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Simple enough, right?

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13 thoughts on “27C322, 27C160, 27C800, 27C400 Programming Adapter (TL866)

    • Hello! Do you have any idea if this adapter will work with an old Needham’s PB-10 burner for 27C400 eproms? There was an original adapter called the “Needham 400”, but I can’t find any info about it. I’m assuming it should be the same?

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  1. The Zelda hack goddess of wisdom is a 1.5Mb rom 16Mb in Size
    Should I use Lunar expand to make this in to 4 1Mb chunks?
    Only I use spit the rom in 3 parts and burnt the rom to the chip only to find it didnt work 😦

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    • Yeah, you can expand the file to be a full 2 MB, then split it into four 512 KB sections to program in the four banks on the 27C160.

      I did a brief check on the ROM, I think I found it online. Did you apply the patch to a Link to the Past ROM? And did you test it in an emulator first?

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    • Thank you for making this excellent adapter! I’m hoping to be able to use it on a TL866II to program a MX29F1615PC, which is a 42-pin DIP EEPROM (2Mx8 or 1Mx16) that I believe is pin-compatible with the 27C160 (other than VPP needs to be 10v for the MX29F161PC). Do you have any experience programming this part?

      I’ve tried the following (from Linux), but get “This chip can’t be erased!”:
      minipro -p AM27C4096@DIP40 -o vpp=10 -o vdd=5 -o vcc=5 -y -E

      If I try to program, I get “Verification failed at address 0x0000: File=0x11, Device=0x00” with:
      minipro -p AM27C4096@DIP40 -o vpp=10 -o vdd=5 -o vcc=5 -y -w rom.bin

      I always see the following, which might not be a problem:
      “WARNING: Chip ID mismatch: expected 0x1001900, got 0x0000 (unknown)”

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      • Hmmm, I’ve never used any of these before, but I imagine it has something to do with how you program it compared to the 160. EPROMs and EEPROMs are interfaced in different ways, and it looks like there’s a table of commands you need to enter to do specific tasks, like erasing and writing. Normally, you can only erase a 160 with UV light, which is probably why you get an erase error message.

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        • Thank you for your help. Now that you’ve explained it, it makes sense that the “This chip can’t be erased!” is because the AM27C4096 is not an EEPROM. I guess I’ll need to figure out if I can tell minipro that the pinout is compatible with the AM27C4096@DIP40, but programming protocol is similar to an EEPROM (though with 10V VPP). I wish there were a little more documentation on what the TL866II Plus does with message packet arguments.

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